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		<title>By: Marian</title>
		<link>http://tomsastroblog.com/?p=4459&#038;cpage=1#comment-154285</link>
		<dc:creator>Marian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dwight - that would be a very interesting area in which to ask Dr Shostak to comment.  I know I&#039;ve been uncomfortable with the idea that TV sitcoms (or worse yet, &quot;reality shows&quot;) might be representing human beings to an alien culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dwight &#8211; that would be a very interesting area in which to ask Dr Shostak to comment.  I know I&#8217;ve been uncomfortable with the idea that TV sitcoms (or worse yet, &#8220;reality shows&#8221;) might be representing human beings to an alien culture.</p>
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		<title>By: Dwight Decker</title>
		<link>http://tomsastroblog.com/?p=4459&#038;cpage=1#comment-154279</link>
		<dc:creator>Dwight Decker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just watched the History Channel program, LIFE AFTER PEOPLE, about what would happen if the human race suddenly disappeared from the planet. In discussing what human artifacts would last longest, a point was made that I&#039;ve heard elsewhere lately. It used to be thought that TV signals would continue indefinitely out into the void, and the aliens 55 light-years out are now enjoying I LOVE LUCY. It&#039;s even been speculated that a TV broadcast of Adolf Hitler at the 1936 Olympic Games would be the aliens&#039; first introduction to us. (Didn&#039;t Carl Sagan&#039;s SF novel CONTACT use that idea?) But now, according to the LIFE AFTER PEOPLE program... the thinking is that TV signals degrade into indecipherable noise in a light-year or two most. I LOVE LUCY never even got as far as Alpha Centauri. On the other hand, Earth is probably a pretty obvious source of non-natural emissions, so the aliens would know some advanced civilzation is here. (So that cat&#039;s out of the bag no matter what we do.) What the aliens make of it is another matter, but they evidently aren&#039;t watching Lucy...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just watched the History Channel program, LIFE AFTER PEOPLE, about what would happen if the human race suddenly disappeared from the planet. In discussing what human artifacts would last longest, a point was made that I&#8217;ve heard elsewhere lately. It used to be thought that TV signals would continue indefinitely out into the void, and the aliens 55 light-years out are now enjoying I LOVE LUCY. It&#8217;s even been speculated that a TV broadcast of Adolf Hitler at the 1936 Olympic Games would be the aliens&#8217; first introduction to us. (Didn&#8217;t Carl Sagan&#8217;s SF novel CONTACT use that idea?) But now, according to the LIFE AFTER PEOPLE program&#8230; the thinking is that TV signals degrade into indecipherable noise in a light-year or two most. I LOVE LUCY never even got as far as Alpha Centauri. On the other hand, Earth is probably a pretty obvious source of non-natural emissions, so the aliens would know some advanced civilzation is here. (So that cat&#8217;s out of the bag no matter what we do.) What the aliens make of it is another matter, but they evidently aren&#8217;t watching Lucy&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: harlock</title>
		<link>http://tomsastroblog.com/?p=4459&#038;cpage=1#comment-154276</link>
		<dc:creator>harlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Jim is under the misconception that SETI&#039;s primary activity is transmission</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Jim is under the misconception that SETI&#8217;s primary activity is transmission</p>
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		<title>By: Marian</title>
		<link>http://tomsastroblog.com/?p=4459&#038;cpage=1#comment-154266</link>
		<dc:creator>Marian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jim -- You are going to love Dr Shostak, then, because he DOES answer that question, both in his books and in at least two of the interviews I&#039;ve watched featuring him.  

The answer is:  We don&#039;t assume they will be benign.  But whatever alien civilization we find isn&#039;t going to know we&#039;ve found them, no more than a radio station knows when you&#039;ve tuned them in.  After all, we&#039;ve been leaking radio waves into space since the early 1900s - do we know if another civilization is picking them up?  No - there&#039;s no way we could know.

Dr Shostak also says that once we identify a civilization, then we can decide whether or not we want to try for contact.

Would you be happy with a rephrasing of your question, Jim?  Maybe... ARE there assumptions as to the nature/intent of any civilization we find, and what would be the science to support any such assumptions?  After all, Stephen Hawking comes right out and says he doesn&#039;t think we should attempt contact with any civilization we find since we don&#039;t know their nature/intent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jim &#8212; You are going to love Dr Shostak, then, because he DOES answer that question, both in his books and in at least two of the interviews I&#8217;ve watched featuring him.  </p>
<p>The answer is:  We don&#8217;t assume they will be benign.  But whatever alien civilization we find isn&#8217;t going to know we&#8217;ve found them, no more than a radio station knows when you&#8217;ve tuned them in.  After all, we&#8217;ve been leaking radio waves into space since the early 1900s &#8211; do we know if another civilization is picking them up?  No &#8211; there&#8217;s no way we could know.</p>
<p>Dr Shostak also says that once we identify a civilization, then we can decide whether or not we want to try for contact.</p>
<p>Would you be happy with a rephrasing of your question, Jim?  Maybe&#8230; ARE there assumptions as to the nature/intent of any civilization we find, and what would be the science to support any such assumptions?  After all, Stephen Hawking comes right out and says he doesn&#8217;t think we should attempt contact with any civilization we find since we don&#8217;t know their nature/intent.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Addison</title>
		<link>http://tomsastroblog.com/?p=4459&#038;cpage=1#comment-154264</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Addison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one question I&#039;ve never seen answered by the SETI types is:  Why would we assume any entity capable of receiving our signals will be benign?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one question I&#8217;ve never seen answered by the SETI types is:  Why would we assume any entity capable of receiving our signals will be benign?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a coincidence, years ago, three years ago to be accurate, I was running SETI@home and my laptop did start over heating and eventually went to laptop heaven.  I can&#039;t blame SETI though, I had the laptop at the scope and had it soaked with dew many times.  I also froze it out a couple times - temps at 28 it went blank and emitted a pitiful tone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a coincidence, years ago, three years ago to be accurate, I was running SETI@home and my laptop did start over heating and eventually went to laptop heaven.  I can&#8217;t blame SETI though, I had the laptop at the scope and had it soaked with dew many times.  I also froze it out a couple times &#8211; temps at 28 it went blank and emitted a pitiful tone.</p>
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